As artificial intelligence reshapes everything from storytelling to business, Liberty White is making sure women—especially Black women—aren’t left out of the conversation. A true modern-day freedom fighter, Liberty is the founder of She Learns AI and a bold advocate for creative and technological liberation. In this episode, she shares how women in AI and digital media can own their narratives, build platforms that reflect their values, and challenge the systemic biases embedded in emerging tech. Through education, entrepreneurship, and storytelling, Liberty is pushing for a future where our voices aren’t just included—they’re amplified by the tools we help build.
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Where Women And AI Meet: A Modern-Day Freedom Fighter’s Vision With Liberty White
Becoming
In this episode, we’re talking about building what’s next, women, AI and audacity. Before we get into it, we want to talk about our topic, which turns out to be becoming, which was inspired by Michelle Obama’s Memoir and something that our interviewee Liberty White mentioned in her interview. Sylvia, tell us what you’re becoming.
I love this question and certainly, Michelle Obama is one of our favorite people. When we talk about becoming, I am endeavoring to become more curious, which is something that Liberty talked about and then also in becoming more present because those words allow me to have a better connection. I realized that we are talking to someone who is steep and information technology. We also know that having connection, that human connection becomes even more important. What are you becoming?
I loved the topic, number one. Again, I will echo you. I love Michelle Obama, what she represents, what she stands for and just who she is. She’s authentic. I think who I’m becoming is someone that uses herself, my health, my joy, my purpose, and becoming more aligned with that. I’m feeling more grounded in who I am and free.
I like that.
I am free to choose to say yes. I’m free to choose to say no. I’m not perfect but just becoming whole and that’s what it means to me. I cannot wait to share this conversation with you. There will be so many takeaways that your notebook or Journal will be filled by the end of the conversation. Without further ado, we will bring you our AI aficionado CEO, Liberty White.
Liberty White’s Mission and Entrepreneurial Journey
We are with Liberty White, a digital disruptor, tech educator and CEO on a mission. She’s built award-winning campaigns, led global training initiatives and is now helping one million women step boldly into the future of AI. We’re talking about inclusion and innovation, the rise of women in AI futures and what it takes to lead with clarity in a fast-changing world. Thank you so much, Liberty, for being here. We cannot wait to get into the conversation.
Thank you so much, both of you for having me. I’m super excited. I feel like this is the big sister/aunty on TV where you come, get loved on, get some wisdom, and get a little correction when it’s necessary. I’m super happy to be in space with both of you.
That is certainly our hope. Liberty, let’s start with your name. How did you come to be named Liberty? What were your parents thinking? Tell us about that.
That’s a great question. I don’t know what they were thinking, but it’s so interesting because it has shaped my identity with that. It hasn’t been until maybe like five years for me that I’m like, “You’re like this modern-day freedom fighter,” as it relates to what we do with, the inequalities that we deal with being technology or even business or entrepreneurship. I thank God for it. It’s definitely a distinguisher but I also just grew into it. People always ask because I always get the Liberty jingles or the Statue of Liberty.
It’s very powerful. I love it and it’s very befitting. You have called yourself a beautiful geek and a global tech builder. Can you take us back to your early days? Our show Boss Leap. What was your first boss leap like?
Something just came to me beforehand. When I was a young girl, I wanted to be a nurse because I love helping people. I don’t know where or how I deviated from that but there was also this entrepreneurship side. I wanted to do the newspaper. You know how you’d get newspapers in the community and you get money for that, but then my dad didn’t want his daughter on the other streets. Even though I was like 10 or 11-years-old.
That has always been there. It’s like, “If I had some money to be able to do this, to give back to build.” It’s again just so interesting how these thoughts were always in my mind. If I say that was around at that age and even younger. We were making hamburgers out of mud pies in the backyard and selling it to the kids of the neighborhood. The boss leap started very young.
I’m imagining you with the newspaper. Are you creating the newspaper back then or selling the newspaper or marketing the newspaper or doing it all?
It would have been for sale. He didn’t want me to do it, so we didn’t. My brother got to do the newspaper. He got to do it.
That’s for another conversation.
Interestingly enough, because of that our family got into the distribution business. We eventually were the people that would bring the newspapers to the kids or the families that would deliver it. “You’re doing some stuff already and we’re not even five minutes in.” I was ahead of it. If you think about it, I wanted to do the newspaper but my dad said no. When the time was, it was my brother. I already foresaw that and then our family started building. That is interesting. I had that a-ha.
You’re also distributing information, so that does tails directly into information technology because for a newspaper just for our younger audience members. We mean like the New York Times or the LA Times. Someone would roll that up and ride their bike in the community and throw it into your footsteps. That’s how you got your newspaper.
Shaping Leaders: Culture, Travel, And Global Perspectives
If you lived in the city, the newspapers were on the corner. I know this is a question I have for you because you talk about splitting your time between Atlanta and Toronto and your roots are Jamaican. I was also told to add in Dallas by our mutual friend, Bridget Sims Lewis. I’m not sure if you’re still traveling back to Dallas, but that’s a lot of traveling. You have interesting roots as well. Can you tell us how places and culture have shaped your leadership style and your creativity in this space that you’re in now?
My parents are Jamaicans, so I grew up in Toronto. That is like the Jamaican-Canadian side of it. The first place that I lived in the US was Dallas.
Is there a large Jamaican Community in Dallas? I know New York and Miami but I wouldn’t think Texas.
Not at all.
I’m just going to say no. I’m Dallas, too.
To even think about the culture shock to the Nth degree. It was very much so, but I also needed that time to find people like Bridget who’s been a mentor for many years. It wasn’t until Houston. Now, Houston does have some West Indian people. When I went to Houston, I found some folks but it has helped me to quickly acclimate to different people, places and cultures.
Therefore, when I’m leading, I’d like to say that I take things into consideration a little bit quicker or have a little bit more grace because is it a language? Is it a communication issue and just thinking through some of those elements? It was from the company I worked for in Dallas that brought me to Atlanta, then I got married, had a family and the rest is history. I still go back and forth. I split my time between primarily Atlanta and Toronto.
Toronto, certainly you think of Drake and Justin Bieber, an international population. With all the things that are happening now in the world, can you talk about how being Canadian has shaped you?
I would think that the multiculturalism side of things. Going back again to taking in more of a global perspective on things and people’s sentiments and how they view things definitely news. I always find it interesting. I do go back and we listen to all sorts of news. You’re listening to the CBC BBC and those out in the Middle East. You’re getting that because you do have people around who are Iranian or many people on the continent of Africa.
You’re hearing a lot and that has just helped me. If we’re looking at what’s happening now, it’s taken a while for me to even realize that even though I’ve spent fifteen plus years in Atlanta, I’ve always had an international view or perspective on things. If you think about having the internet and having technology, especially after COVID hit. It made not being in one place okay.
People uprooted, whether it was to be close to the family, but they still worked for this company, so remote work and those types of things. I’ve always said for years, as long as I have a phone, an internet and a tablet even. I could be anywhere in the world. That’s just much more accepted now because of the times and the days that we’re living in.
Sparking A Movement: She Learns AI And Empowering Women
Tell us your company. She Learns AI is aiming to equip one million women. That’s not a goal. It’s a movement. What is the spark that lit that fire? I’m so excited for you to talk to us about all things and your mission with AI and tech and particularly in our community. What sparked that in you?
I’m happy to share that. It’s been a few years for the AI side of it like public facing because I have a background in media, digital and digital productions. It was a few years ago where I’m part of a community where these global tech folks are those behind Lucasfilm and who may work for the government but across the globe in their respective industries.
Maybe some of your audience may have heard like Midjourney or ChatGPT. They were just coming out again publicly because AI takes a long time to build. We were testing and creating things. Having that background and realizing, “It’s making it easier for people to come up with social media content. It’s making it a lot easier for people to create things.” First for my community, I started doing tutorials and one of them went viral.
“I can do it. I love and help people.”
There might be something to this AI thing and from there, building, learning and immersing myself in the space. In 2024, during Women’s History month, I wanted to do something different like, “I could have gone live with a bunch of women and talk about women’s history but what would have had an impact?” I had a lot of friends sending me DMS whenever they see these cool prompts and I recognize they’re sending me this stuff but are they taking the time to do it?
Out of that, I started a challenge and it was like just doing one prompt. We’ll send you prompts every day. Pick one and do it. That’s how She Learns AI was born because if you can have someone to help you break down the intimidation behind the technology. That will increase your confidence and your aptitude because the world economic forum says, “When tools come out, 53% of men are already testing and trying things out and breaking things, but 35% of women are already starting behind.” This is technology. This is the era that’s literally changing our entire world. Ladies, let’s get on it. Let’s get on it.
If you can just have someone to help you break down the intimidation behind the technology, that will increase your confidence, that will increase your aptitude. Share on XThank you for sharing that. Is it a part of Chozen Media? That’s your company as well.
Yes.
In terms of what you just mentioned, I think it was 35% of us as women. What is your take on that in terms of how we grow up? Are we more intimidated by tech or more cautious or not empowered? What do you think?
Can I check all of the above? While I’m primarily speaking about AI, at the root of it is technology. You have the base of that being what they called STEM or STEAM, which is science, technology, engineering, arts and math. We already, at a very young age, see that disproportion number of young girls who are into math or science. It starts there and that then ultimately impacts us because whether that be we don’t see representations. If you think back to school, did you see a Black math teacher? Did you see that association to be able to say, “I can do that as well?”
In our community, we see those that are put on the spotlight because we see doctors. We see people in the grocery store and our hairdresser is Black. We see all of those things but what is pushed out front, what if we were able to show more women in AI or showing more science teachers to then make it more comfortable or like a safe space for you to say, “I can do that.”
I’ll share this other part of just the ability to make mistakes. We think we grow up, as our parents rightfully are trying to protect us, be primary, proper and do these. Technology is trying things. It is testing and breaking things until you find something that works. There’s even a cultural undertone to help us to get there.
AI And Representation: Ensuring Inclusivity In Technology
Truthfully, we don’t always have, as far as when you talk about the ability to make mistakes. There are sometimes real consequences for communities that may not have as many resources to make mistakes. You start that one business and you use all your capital for that and maybe that is it for you. I was thinking about that. When about artificial intelligence, the first thing I heard about it was when they were coming up with what people look like and they were creating the avatars or the popular myth in the community was for Black women, they didn’t express the diversity of what Black women look like. How do we then make sure that there’s representation as far as when we talk about artificial intelligence?
You make a very valid point because this artificial intelligence is basically mimicking human behavior. The data is based on whatever or whoever.
The racism and sexism. I’m just going to say all of that misogyny.
All of that is in there because it’s training on what’s existing. If we want to train that, that means Dr. Sylvia and Dr. Angela, you’ve got to create things for the input or providing data and that’s a whole other episode where we talk about cybersecurity and safety because inherently those are all valid and important.
When do we give our data so that these models are trained accurately as well? How many of us have the resources to even build models? Now people are using our models and I can see that coming down in the coming years. There’s going to be a need for, what is your model? People are using your model based on data because it’s all lived experiences. We need a variety of that for us to accurately use the technology.
“Whose live experiences,” is a phrase that comes to my mind, but can we back up? How did you get into information technology? How did you get into IT?
Again, this is the entrepreneur side. I’m going to date myself but going back to university. I went to the University of Toronto and it was at the time where the internet and websites were coming up. I went to school for a major in sociology and minor in English and French, but then I was doing events and community activities. It’s like, “If I learn how to make web pages then I can make some extra money.”
I was doing different events and then it was like, “Let me switch my classes.” I put my university classes in the evening time and I went to Humber College. This is again way back Photoshop and QuarkXPress and all of those tools. When I got my web management program there, then the rest is history. I didn’t even know that was going to be the thing because again, it was more the people, the sociology, and wanting to be a nurse but it was the entrepreneurship and the technology that has opened the doors. Here I am many years later.
Beyond Consumers: Empowering Women As Tech Creators
In reading about you and some of the things that you’ve said. You’ve talked about AI not just being a trend but a new way of working. How do you see women or how do you help women like us see themselves as creators, not just consumers of the tech but creators?
That I would say, even if we do a lot of different workshops in 2025 alone, we have done two women in AI features weeks. What does that mean? Instead of just doing a workshop, which is great for doing an online program. We created an experience where every day, there’s some touch point for you. Whether that be participating in just an intro to AI. We’ve amassed a great roster of instructors, educators and speakers. You come and you hear something that might pique your interest if you’re new to help you with, what we call, AI literacy, so you understand how it works for you.
We have social activities as well. That is like we’re meeting over dinner with a speaker and/or straight up hands on labs because what we’ve heard from our attendees and our students is that immersive experience. You come in the first day potentially not knowing very much or some knowledge but through repetition, through immersion each day that it gained, what it does is it affects your confidence.
Going back to what we were speaking about earlier, you’re getting young girls into technology or into STEAM. A major part of it is confidence because we like to get it right. We like to get it perfect but if there’s a space for you to ask whatever question you want. No question is dumb. By that Friday or by the end of the week, you’ve either made an AI a bestie or a tool that is now good to be your AI bestie.
These two events you’ve talked about. Are these in person, virtual or hybrid?
There are hybrids. The one that we did for a week in Atlanta that we had first online because again, we have a global community. We wanted our first one to still have people involved, then the rest of it was in person. The second one was Cannes.
Could you please tell us. It’s my dream to go to Cannes at some point. If you need someone to show up with you, please let me know. Please tell our audience about that and your participation in that.
Thank you and yes, because of this experience, I have a whole new perspective on how we’ll be able to bring more people along with us next time. If we just even think about the alignment because it was at our Atlanta experience, where we did it for the entire week. Someone was there and said, “I’d love to bring this to Cannes.” We got an invitation to help them with programming and unfortunately, things didn’t work out from a business perspective.
There was already someone on our team who has done other activities in Cannes, so we said, “We’re going to give ourselves a couple weeks and we’re just going to go all in and produce our own experience.” What went from helping someone with just talking points and helping them get speakers was us literally programming an entire week. For those who are not familiar with Cannes, it’s the Cannes International Festival of Creativity.
Not to be confused with the film one that happens in March. This is your advertising agency and your creative directors. That entire world and the business and ecosystem that makes content and marketing work. This is where they come for your think tank’s, your big conversations and your parties. Let’s be very clear, too. Your yacht parties.
Make the next context or something else.
Very true, and yes, as you said. Someone had shared this with me and what it’s like to be there and to see it in action like, “This is where deals are made.” Not only did we create room for women to hear, we’re also our allies as well. We create room for these conversations and for people to meet each other but then, when we all went outside and we’re participating in other people’s activities. I got a chance to meet D-Nice. You meet people.
By giving and creating room, you ended up in the room.
I love that. Yes, that was exactly it. It is us doing that and we knew, too. Cannes was not the environment to do hands-on workshops. We also had to shift it so that we had dinner. Dr. Anino Emuwa is the Founder of 100 Women @ Davos and Natalie Black. She’s also with Culture X Curate who we work together to put this together. She said, “If you are there, they believe you’re supposed to be there.”
You certainly were supposed to be there.
Wherever Sylvia says she wants to be, I want to be there, too, so just you know. We’re on the same team here. We’re so proud of you for doing that. Again, the impetus behind it was creating the space for others and by doing that you opened this space for yourself. I love that. You also had a viral post that was addressing mean girl behavior in the tech space. What did that moment reveal to you about community and maybe what still needs to shift in our community? Can you share with our audience what that was about?
The New Currency: Collaboration Over Competition In Tech
Can you give us a little color around how it came about?
There was a post that I saw. Each Wednesday and primarily on Instagram, I will just post. “It’s Wins Day, so share a win.” In my feed, something had popped up that just said, “You deserve to have women that are not jealous of you, rooting you on and just supporting you for being you.” I was like that’s not typically something. My LinkedIn is a little buttoned up and sharing technical tips and things, but I felt it. This is something that this space needs to hear and I tagged a bunch of phenomenal other women, organizations, leadership, technology and business organizations because I do believe, especially in the times that we’re living in, that collaboration is the new currency.
I’m not in competition with any other women’s organization because there are so many different ways that we learn, connect, and what we’re looking for that there’s space for everyone. When we can come together, we can probably either serve more people or feel some gaps that we have. That’s why I had no problem sharing all these organizations. I posted in one about my business and then it was like, “Ding, ding, ding.” I was like, “What is happening now?”
It resonated.
It did. To answer your question, what it showed was how many women are suffering in silence because a number of people wrote some long posts like, “I’m sitting here and I’m crying. I’ve been trying to build this company.” The attacks that they’ve either gotten from people or people in the workplace. One of the things that I shared in the post was because I feel like I have a phenomenal support system and my business besties out there. I’m extremely grateful.
At the end of the post, I said, “It is my prayer day for every mean girl, God send you five other women who show you that real support is there.” That part of you can be supported. You do not have to be an island. Again, I’ll say this and I was not paid. This is like, I appreciate this show because your relationships with your guests and the topics that you share creates this space for people to come and have tea with you or whatever. Again, the Jamaican side.
Tea is good.
Come have tea or coffee and then you’re unpacking the experiences that you’ve had. There’s a lot of transparency and authenticity. That viral moment shows that there are a lot of people who are just looking to be loved and supported.
So many people are just looking to be loved and supported instead of constant competition. Share on XInstead of the constant competition. It seems that some places foster. I love the support and the message that you had there. I can see why it resonated so well.
Thank you.
Navigating The Digital World: Social Media Safety & AI Tools
Certainly, social media is here to stay. What are some of the biggest misconceptions we have about social media? How can we use it better?
Some of the misconceptions is you don’t have to put your entire life out there. Be very careful with that. Since we’re talking about social, but that’s all part of cybersecurity and artificial intelligence. I saw this post that spoke about when you do your day in the life and you’re showing all these places that you go to. You might want to be careful with that. Is there something you can share that’s more generic? I am very meticulous when taking photos. If I’m not at an event, it’s like, you’re at this event.
I’m very careful of street signs in the background. I’m very careful of what else is visible. I’m careful of photos and what’s behind. You take these photos and what’s behind there? Is there a birth certificate that has a date? Things that are framed. Those are some immediate very practical things to be very careful when it comes to social media. There’s the doom and gloom side of it, but then it can be a tool to find a community, your tribe or resources that will be able to help you, whether it be personally. You find a fitness community or a runner’s community or some online business besties or She Learns AI, and now you’re starting to do more AI stuff.
Social media has a doom and gloom side, but it can be a tool to find community, your tribe, and resources to help you. Share on XThese are our great ways. I believe that your audience is very much a good portion being professionals. On LinkedIn, your thoughts and leadership. We’re in a time now where people are looking for authenticity. Your ability to share your lived experience of how you got through medical school or how you’re building this show or building your business, the highs and the lows. That’s in this time of technology and AI, while people are able to do a lot more.
We’re not going to lose that human touch. By you, being present and being authentic, you’ll find people. You’ll find business leads and hopefully, as well, you’ll leave what I like to call digital breadcrumbs for those who are looking for jobs. When you submit your application or your resume, believe it or not, they’re looking you up on LinkedIn. Be very mindful of what you are sharing, posting and liking even because it triggers the algorithm.
It’s interesting. I was in San Diego. I was traveling and the car service, we were just talking. He just said, “We googled you.” I was like, “Why are you googling me?” It started to make sense because it’s like, if you are booking a car service online, they have no idea who’s this person I’m picking up at the airport? If you Google me, Boss Leap comes up and all of these things. I was like, “I’m a little creeped out initially, but I understand from the perspective of you wanting to be safe why you would do that because it tells you I’m a human being.”
That’s all too creepy, though.
If I can share these two tips because of you saying that as well. You’ve probably seen in your feed a lot of people using different AI tools to either clone themselves or clone other people and they’re even safe. Being mindful. I like to share when we do our workshops, it’s like, find a safe word for you and your immediate family so that if somebody calls and they say, “It’s Angela and I need XX whatever the thing is.” You’re like, “What’s the safe word?”
If they don’t have that, you know someone has used it or someone is just trying to do something malicious. If someone says, “Did you wire this?” You don’t say yes or no. Responding in a way and you’re saying, “I can hear you.” Don’t say, “Yes, I can hear you,” because now they’ve captured your voice saying yes. Trigger that when you were saying that safety measure there.
This is off topic but one of my daughter’s was reminding me. My girls are older than you but I keep getting spam calls and she says, “You’re not saying anything are you, mom?” I was like, “No.” I typically don’t. I ignore most of them. I’m just getting so many and I was expecting some calls from a particular place. I thought, “I don’t recognize this but I have to answer it.” At any rate, just saying hello, they can use that or yes and no. I understand that but going back to AI.
It leads me to ask the question. I used ChatGPT for example. Are there particular things that you don’t want to share with us, what we call a mission now because one of my mentees calls it a mission now. Are there particularly things I don’t want to share with AI or ask AI in terms of giving out too much personal information?
The Power Of Mentorship And Community Building
Definitely. Your daughter is correct and you’re on the right track with not putting birthdates in or of course. I say of course but you just never know. It’s getting so familiar that sometimes we slip and are we in an effort to be more productive? Are you putting your address in there? When you’re putting your finances, are you redacting some things and marking them out and using a tool like marking that out?
As much as it says, these companies keep changing their privacy policies. If you’ve noticed in your email, you’ve probably seen in 2024 at least like, “We’ve updated our terms of service.” A lot of them are updating them to protect themselves because you may put that information in there. It’s being very mindful of your identity because at the end of the day, there’s only one you when you want to keep it that way.
Be mindful of your identity. There's only one you, and you want to keep it that way. Share on XWe know there’s ChatGPT, which in my sphere is probably the most popular or utilized one. I know that Microsoft has a particular one. There’s something called Perplexity. Does it matter? Should we use them all? How do we navigate that you use?
You use what makes sense for you and what I mean by that is, there are so many tools. There’s tools being produced now as we’re doing this episode. I like to say, what problem are you trying to solve? You mentioned Microsoft, so that’s Copilot. If you are in an enterprise organization, the companies either figure that out or you’re going to be using Copilot. Go ahead and watch some tutorials or get some training on using that.
They work similar to ChatGPT, which is OpenAI or Google Gemini or even Claude or Anthropic Claude. They have different slants. If you are looking at copywriting or coding. Claude is usually stronger in that area. Google VO is now leading in video creation, so that might be the tool or people who use Google Workspace. See the nuance of what you are doing in your life or your world. Each tool adapts now. We’ll say for Perplexity.
That is very much like a search engine because all of these tools are being trained but the data is not current. Perplexity is, because all it’s doing is forwarding you to different links and resources so you get live information. Perplexity is like my Google search now. That’s a great question like how and where. Think about the problem that you’re trying to solve and then the tool that makes the most sense for that.
It sounds like someone is probably creating one for healthcare or for OB-GYN or for whatever because that would be the next thing.
I’ve spent some time out in San Francisco and I found whenever I go to AI events or startup events there. A lot of folks are doing things in healthcare. They are regulations and things that cause that space for it to take a little bit longer. It’s happening now, but we’re going to see more of that. There are a couple of even mental health tools to help. You’re chatting with a chatbot that’s helping from that perspective.
Are you saying like BetterHelp but I’m not sure.
They’re a lot of those tools out there.
I want to circle back to you. I know you started off with communications and I’m not sure you did broadcasting but you’re very much a storyteller by nature. Correct?
Yes.
I saw some work with Smithsonian to ESPN. What is the through line in the stories that you choose to tell? What is it that is maybe a commonality or what guides you?
I would say that access is a big part of it. For the Smithsonian, in the business world, people bring people on. I was brought onto a PR team and it was the launch day and this shows you how far back that was. We’re on Twitter responding to people’s tweets and the social media plan for this big day for the African-American Museum for the launch. It is getting people to know tips and information.
I like that you had said that earlier, Sylvia. Information has always been a part, so the stories that I gravitate to are those of empowerment and those of helping people to know what’s next. There’s that part of that innovation side of things, but then I used to play basketball. There’s always going to be an element of fitness and health in there as well.
Betting On Yourself: Self-Confidence And Leadership
What would you say to your younger self?
Bet on yourself. I would say that. I feel in 2025, I’ve said it. I’ve said it to myself but it was like, “You’re that chick. Go ahead and bet on yourself.” Guys do it all the time.
Go ahead and bet on yourself. Share on XWe have zero ability and they’re like the bean’s beans.
To have more of those conversations and give myself permission to say that. Hopefully, someone who’s reading will like, “Liberty’s got a point. I have that chick.” That encourages them to say it out loud and someone else hears them. They say it out loud and someone else hears them then we have this trickle effect of a whole bunch of boss ladies out there who are taking the leap because they’re that chick.
That leads me, you’re a mother and you are now in a day and age where you’ve got a digital native here and you’re building tech. How are you giving the intention to her and empowering her that’s different, perhaps the way that you think you were empowered as a young child or even going back to our day how we were empowered? What is it like now? What do you think you’re doing intentionally that’s different in this space?
Allowing her to be curious. She asks a lot of questions and comes from the day where children are seen and not heard. That one is still tough, but allowing her to ask the questions and make mistakes. There’s a lot of patience. That’s a whole job to just know. Allow her to make this mistake and so hand over hand helping her through that and being okay with saying no. It’s like, “No, you can’t do that now.” Her thing is Snapchat. She wants to get Snapchat because all the other kids at an event, the kids had Snapchat. “No, ma’am. You got your YouTube channel and mommy helps you with that.” We are not because you can’t monitor that and she’s in elementary school. We’re not doing that. That’s one day at a time. A lot of prayer.
That is always and you will continue that for the rest of your day. I am a testament to that. That’s great advice. I love that, particularly since you are in this space and you still are setting those boundaries and recognize when you should set them.
Very much so. I also think back to what you had asked earlier about my Canadian upbringing. I don’t think it’s only relegated to that nationality, but being around a lot of kids, say some of the Jewish kids. Their parents had the meat shop or whatever business they had. After school, the kids went to help. She helps with content sometimes. I let her. When I’m editing, I will say, “What do you think about this song?” She’s often right. She says, “That sounds boring or what is that?”
I allow her to be a part of that because one of the biggest skills that this next generation will need is critical thinking skills. I always say when stuff comes up, I say, “How are we going to solve this problem?” I let her think through and help me. We’ll talk it through. I think that those types of experiences are very important instead of always telling her what to do. Now, don’t get me wrong. I still do but I try to balance that.
Critical thinking is one of the biggest skills this next generation will need. Share on XThat in and of itself is empowering.
Self-Care & Intentional Parenting In The Digital Age
You wear a lot of hats. Talk about entrepreneurs, your mom, and IT. How do you practice self-care?
Did we hear that side, that self-care? I am still working on that. I’m much better than where I was a few years ago. I remember just going through therapy. I divorced at that time I should say because my former husband has now passed away. The therapist would say, “What do you do for fun?” In order to keep up with everything, I am constantly reading or listening to a show or whatever that may be. He said, “I am going to challenge you. Go ahead. Take a bath and just watch. Don’t analyze it. Don’t analyze the shots of what the character was saying. Don’t do any of that.”
That has been with me for the past years. I tried to at least once a month just get in the bath and run a hot water and put my iPad up and go find the corniest movie possible on YouTube or Netflix. I will just binge for a little bit to just allow myself to lose up. I’m definitely getting into a better space of, “You need to take a break,” because I did have burnout a couple years ago. I am doing better with that. Thank you.
Give us a binge. Give us one.
Forever, the Netflix one. Did you watch it?
I love it because it’s a love letter to Los Angeles, for me. It talks about all of the different social strata that we have with the Black community.
It was just so many flashbacks and it was just so beautifully done but the emotions of falling in love and I am signal now. I’m like, “This is what’s out there now.”
That’s a whole other episode.
Liberty, you have also said that we’re not waiting for permission. We’re building what’s next in your business. What do you see that’s on the horizon for Liberty?
For business or personally?
Either one or both.
I am going to intentionally say personal because business is always there and always at the forefront. I didn’t read the First Lady’s book Becoming, but I’m becoming. What’s in the future is more self-care, more like, what do I need because I very much do have a servant to take care of hearts. I said that this was going to be my year of no. If it doesn’t align, then that’s okay. “No, I’m not going to this place. No, I’m not doing this thing.”
I don’t have it all the way together yet, but I am falling in love with the woman that I am becoming. Even the simplest thing, I said I have a tendency to do my makeup in the car because I’m rushing from place to place. No, you do not leave the house. You stop and you do those eyebrows. You take time with them and you do that lipstick. That’s been my self-care. Take that enough time. Do you have enough time to do your eyebrows?
We want to continue the important mission that you’re on. Can you tell us how our readers can support She Learns AI and just be a part of the movement?
I would even say, even more than being a part of the movement is this is for you. This is for those of you who might feel that, “I keep hearing all of this AI stuff in the news or on my social feed. What is it?” To gain a better understanding, you can go to SheLearnsAI.com and that gives some information now. We have a program. It’s a pilot program we’re doing specifically for those who are in a 9:00 to 5:00 professional realm, where you’re like, “How do I make this work for me at work? Employers are looking for people with AI skills.”
What does that mean for you without the overwhelm because this stuff can be overwhelming. It’s just four weeks of walking you through where you’re in a safe space to make mistakes and ask the questions. We’ll have hands-on conversations and help people through because someone said this, “The people who built the websites of yesterday are now running the world.” This shift that’s happening, it’s here. Be a part of it or be left behind.
Do you have time for a quick lightning round of questions?
Always. I love that part. I’ve always got time for the lightning round.
Sylvia’s got some for you. I’ll let her go first.
Jamaica or Toronto for vacation?
Jamaica. There’s Montego Bay and get some mango, some shrimp and some saltfish.
I’m with you there. Text or voice memo?
Voice text all day.
I’m just learning that.
What’s your most used AI tool?
It’s probably going to be ChatGPT because we got a launch coming up. ChatGPT but on the backside, I’ll say Perplexity.
Last one, something about you that would surprise us.
I am introverted. If I could just not be in front of the camera and put other people in front. I’m very much a producer, that would be but I don’t have that budget yet so here I am.
Soon it will come. You were at Cannes, so that means all the good things and all those people you are meeting.
I received that.
We cannot thank you enough. I appreciate all your insight and your program. We hope that our audience takes advantage of learning from not only a knowledgeable source, but a reliable source. That’s what in this day and age of a barrage of, let me teach you this and let me teach you that. Knowing that there is a source that has a good reputation behind it. We thank you and we will share your information. Until we meet again. May you be well.
Thank you so much. It’s been wonderful.
Liberty, can you give us any links or social media sites, whatever you have that would allow our listeners to either look up your program or get in touch with you?
She Learns AI is for you. If you’ve been listening to the news and you’re scrolling and you keep hearing about artificial intelligence or cybersecurity and all of those things and you’re trying to figure out, “How does that fit into my world? I’m non-technical.” That’s why we built She Learns AI. If you go to SheLearnsAI.com/TheInnerCircle. That’s a pilot program where we have intentionally created this space, bring your questions.
It’ll be structured as well, but it’s not one of those courses that you got to do all the work. It’s not that. We’re curating this with the news articles and things that you should be paying attention to. What that means, especially if you work from 9:00 to 5:00 or you’re in a managerial role and they’re depending on you to give some leadership and some guidance around AI. We’ll help you with the language and figuring out what that means for you and for your team.
If you’re still looking for people.
You’re going to see us there.
For sure. Thank you again and until we meet again. May you be well.
Thank you so much.
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Building What’s Next: The Future Of Women In AI
Angela, what an awesome conversation. Liberty White reminded us that tech is not just about algorithms. It’s about people, power and possibility. What take home did you get from our conversation with Liberty White?
Probably the first one is that I have so much to learn.
You’re not alone.
She had so much that resonated with me, bet on yourself. That has certainly been a sentiment of mine particularly in these few years, I would say. I see the value in doing that because not everyone can necessarily see your vision or know your vision and you might not be able to convince somebody of that vision but you know. Betting on yourself is part of the equation of becoming successful in that.
You’re that shit, as Liberty said.
You’re sweet. That’s why I have you in my corner because I hear that and that helps me to continue to bet on myself. One practical piece of advice is having your safe word, which I need with my family. I feel like I’m careful in the space of sharing and not oversharing, for example. My family’s law enforcement background is like posting pictures when I’m on vacation.
I don’t typically do that until I’m back home so that people don’t know you’re out of town and those sorts of things. Certainly, not putting personal information. I didn’t think about what’s in the background of what you’re posting but we wouldn’t have any personal information. Again, the safe word is a great idea with family and friends.
We’re going to have to talk about our safe words offline because you could get a call and someone says, “Such and such, Sylvia, $3 million.”
Ocean can’t be my safe word because anybody ever listens to me, I’m always talking about the ocean or the beach. I’d have to be creative and think about that. Will I remember it? Lastly, which I love and is a great sentiment is collaboration is the new currency. In our communities, collaborating versus competing is so key and critical. Even in the space that we’re moving in now. Collaboration has been valuable to us. How about you, what did you take away?
I enjoyed our conversation. I’m checking my notes because Liberty talked about how we are going to solve this problem when talking to her daughter and something came up. Looking at things as a problem to solve as opposed to as a hindrance or a barrier or something that is going to take something away from us. That mind shifts into problem solving is important.
I love how she thinks of herself or envisioned herself as a modern-day freedom fighter. Her name is Liberty and she is a modern-day freedom fighter. That is fantastic and I think about how she is opening up the world of artificial intelligence for women and certainly for women of color. That is so necessary and thinking about what’s next.
For the kid, maybe tech is not sexy or not good. She went to Cannes.
She met D-Nice.
That alone. He got me through the pandemic. Putting the positive into STEM so young girls and young girls of color see all these fabulous women, but someone like Liberty can inspire them to go on and conquer the world and continue to show us the way. I loved it. I hope the audience loves it. I’m sure they will.
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Important Links
- Liberty White on LinkedIn
- Liberty White on Instagram
- She Learns AI
- Midjourney
- ChatGPT
- Chozen Media
- 100 Women @ Davos
- Culture X Curate
- Perplexity
- Copilot
- OpenAI
- Google Gemini
- Claude
- Anthropic Claude
- BetterHelp
- Becoming
- The Inner Circle
About Liberty White
Founder and CEO, She Learns AI, N. Liberty White helps businesses and professionals to integrate AI to streamline workflows, spark creativity, and scale their impact. Through Women and AI Futures, she is bridging the gender gap in tech by empowering women and driving diversity in innovation.
Liberty White is the Founder and CEO of She Learns AI, a global initiative that’s aiming to equip 1M women with vital AI and tech skills. As a pioneer in the AI space, Liberty spearheads community-driven solutions – helping businesses and professionals to streamline their workflows, spark creativity, and scale industry impact that upskills the workforce and closes the tech gender gap. Through Women and AI Futures, Liberty is driving representation for women in the AI talent pool at large, all while empowering the next generation of AI leaders at the intersection of diversity and innovation.